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Ian Dunn
712021.  Sun May 23, 2010 5:40 am Reply with quote

It turns that it is possible for women to become Catholic priests - just not Roman Catholic priests.

The Old Catholic Church, which is a breakaway branch of the Roman Catholic Church, does have women priests, and the Italian branch has just ordained a woman as a priests.

Maria Vittoria Longhitano, now known as Mother Longhitano, has just been made a priest, and hopes that this will help other women priests and help to make the Roman Catholic Church change its mind.

Source: BBC

 
samivel
712060.  Sun May 23, 2010 8:39 am Reply with quote

The singer Sinéad O'Connor was ordained as a priest by Bishop Michael Cox of the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church in the late 1990s.

 
bobwilson
712472.  Mon May 24, 2010 9:32 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
The Old Catholic Church, which is a breakaway branch of the Roman Catholic Church


Surely - the Roman Catholic Church is a breakaway branch of the Old Catholic Church?

Actually, the Roman Catholic Church is more Roman than Catholic. It's the result of Constantine (effectively) getting the various representatives of Christian sects gathered in one place, locking them up and telling them they couldn't have any pudding until they came up with a unified, coherent policy that suited him.

For reasons that are presumably clear to Christians, God didn't choose to use his divine intervention power to rescue the representatives but (apparently) acknowledged the wisdom of Constantine in taking this action. Maybe he was busy elsewhere on that particular occasion? Or perhaps his wand was at the cleaners? Maybe a dog chewed his homework?

 
CB27
712576.  Tue May 25, 2010 6:56 am Reply with quote

And what about the People's Front of Judea? Splitters!

And who you calling Shirley?






OK, too much time on my hands today...

 
Sadurian Mike
712584.  Tue May 25, 2010 7:15 am Reply with quote

bobwilson wrote:
For reasons that are presumably clear to Christians, God didn't choose to use his divine intervention power to rescue the representatives but (apparently) acknowledged the wisdom of Constantine in taking this action. Maybe he was busy elsewhere on that particular occasion? Or perhaps his wand was at the cleaners? Maybe a dog chewed his homework?

He was outsourcing. We do it all the time and you don't anyone compla... oh, right.

 
suze
712621.  Tue May 25, 2010 11:51 am Reply with quote

bobwilson wrote:
Surely - the Roman Catholic Church is a breakaway branch of the Old Catholic Church?


Actually, no. The Old Catholic Church which exists today was formed in 1889 as a result of the Union of Utrecht. That Union brought together the largest and oldest of the so-called Old Catholic denominations (the Oudkatholieke Kerk Nederlands, based in Utrecht, which traces its foundation to 1520) and a number of other denominations of similar belief.

Although it doesn't use the term, the Church of England has similar beliefs to the Old Catholics - OCs reject Papal infallibility and do not consider the Immaculate Conception as dogma. (It's not in the Bible, so it cannot be dogma; just because the Pope says it is so isn't enough. Approximately.)

So the initial statement in this thread - that "it is possible for women to become Catholic priests - just not Roman Catholic priests" is true. But it could just as well have been made with reference to the Church of England (or indeed the Church of Scotland*) as to the Old Catholics.


As for the so-called "Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church", I've a feeling that it only actually has one member. That man, an eccentric Irishman named Michael Cox, was "ordained" by a group of priests who had been "ordained" by the self-styled Pope Gregory XVII (a Spaniard named Domínguez), who had in turned been "ordained" by an Vietnamese bishop who has contrived to be excommunicated twice.


* Oh yes it is! The Articles Declaratory of the Church of Scotland note that the C of S "is part of the Holy Catholic or Universal Church".

 
bobwilson
713015.  Wed May 26, 2010 8:47 pm Reply with quote

That's not really an answer suze.

What we DO know is that the RC is the result of Constantines interference. I'd guess that the Old Catholic Church is the result of a tradition of not accepting that breakaway sect. To suggest otherwise would be like saying that modern Druids are a breakaway from Wicca - rather than being an attempt to revert to the original Druidic tradition.

Whether the Old Catholic Church is truly representative of the original Catholic Church is debatable - but what is beyond question is that the official Roman Catholic church has more to do with Rome than it does with Christianity.

(Not that I'm that bothered - it's still just a bunch of people who haven't realised that the presents under the tree are put there by their dad, and the sixpence under the pillow that replaces the tooth is the result of mum sneaking into the bedroom while they were asleep. Still, better these idiots are kept out of harm's way spouting mumbo-jumbo than being paid to interfere in other people's lives).

 

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