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678601.  Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:34 am Reply with quote

Fair enough.

I am not sure if you are aware, but many Americans believed that George Washington Carver invented the Peanut Butter. That is what I thought you were commenting on.

The only thing I would quibble a bit is that the Incas are a pre-Columbian society and the term "America" had yet been invented. That and they are from Peru, which would more accurately called South Americans.

For myself, I honestly don't consider sliced bread an invention-but a result. I am sure bread was sliced manually before this time. Now if term was "Greatest invention since pre-sliced bread loafs", then I would almost agree.

As for the Ice Cream cone, I thought it was created in St. Louis. It was your comment that it was mentioned in British Cookbooks. I went to verify this info when I came across the information about the French cookbooks that pre-dated your information. So I learned something new, thanks to you.

Considering that United States was a British Colony, I would assume that we would get most of our books from england

The cookbook The Viriginia Housewife is replicated at Feeding America site. It's known more for the first cookbook to print regional recipies, than the first "American Cookbook". The author, from my quick glance, offers local and international dishes-and labels them as such. Longed used and wide spread dishes from other countries were considered "local" at that point.

However neither Ice Cream nor Waffles are labeled from England.
Ice Creams served in her book Molded Into Shapes or served in a glass. Nothing is mentioned about putting it into cones. Waffels or Waffers are listed a few pages before under cakes. But no direct relation are placed to connect them.

The first book that had cornets and Ice Cream was Mrs. A.B. Marshall's Book of Cookery 1888. So combining the French Cone with the ice Cream is an English idea. However, since The Virgina Houswife was published in 1838, I doubt that Mrs. Marshall had any influence on a cookbook that was published 17 years before she was born.

However, Since Mrs. Agnes Bertha Marshal was a famous cook and ran a staffing agency, it could very well be that a few of her workers, clients or fans of her book, brought the idea to America...where somebody at some point popularized the Ice Cream cone.
1248822.  Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:52 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
There are plenty of cricket leagues in the USA today, it's just that few of the players are natural born citizens. As in many countries where cricket is a minority sport, people who play it in the USA are for the most part people who have immigrated from the major cricket playing lands. (In the USA, that's primarily South Asia and the English speaking Caribbean. I'm also aware of an Australian who runs a team in Kansas.)

I remember posting once about cricket at one of the Ivy League schools. It was noted that most of the cricket team were Indian or Jamaican, but there had been one American born guy on the team the previous year.

Much the same is true of cricket in Canada. The first time the Canadian team reached the World Cup in 1979, there were three "proper Canadians" on the team, while today there are none. The people who are the age to be the sons of those three men tend to play baseball or soccer instead as their summer sport.

The current national team is predominantly of Indian birth, and some are only marginally Canadian. Notably, John Davision - Canada's only world class player of recent years - was born on Vancouver Island, but his parents were Australian and he's lived in Australia for most of his life.

But it's slowly changing. Canada had a very successful Under 15 team a couple years back, and a majority of that team was Canadian born. Most were of South Asian origins, but there were also white and black players among the squad. (The Canada women's team is mostly posh white girls from Toronto. That two of the team are over fifty may give an idea of just how little women's cricket there is in Canada.)

Cricket also has a substantial cult following in Greece. It developed especially in Corfu which was occupied by Britain from 1823 to 1864. By 1893 a Gymnastikos club had emerged whose sole opponents were visiting British sailors. By 1923 the Ergatikos club was formed, eventually renaming itself after Lord Byron. Highlights pre-WW1 were the 1904 season where the C-in-C of the Mediterranean fleet attended the festival and the 1932 season when the festival was attended by the Prince of Wales.

In 1996 British Airways sponsored a trip for a Greek side to tour and play overseas cricket matches and this led to Greek teams playing matches in England. In 1997 the Hellenic Cricket Federation was formed which is an affiliate of the ICC.



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