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QI Individual
83211.  Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:53 am Reply with quote

PYRO73 wrote:
All blood is haemoglobin(red blood cells), leukocytes(white blood cells), platelets and plasma. From all animals from fleas to blue whales it's all the same, so why would dragons be any different? mmmmm?

The world may be more complex than you think. Molluscs for instance (like the octopus), and some arthropods like the Horseshoe Crab use Hemocyanin in their blood to transport Oxygen.

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Octopuses have three hearts. Two pump blood through each of the two gills, while the third pumps blood through the body. Octopus blood contains the copper-rich protein hemocyanin for transporting oxygen. Less efficient than the iron-rich hemoglobin of vertebrates, the hemocyanin is dissolved in the plasma instead of being bound in red blood cells and gives the blood a blue color. Octopuses draw water into their mantle cavity where it passes through its gills. As mollusks, octopuses have gills that are finely divided and vascularized outgrowths of either the outer or the inner body surface.

 
Cummerbund for Geography
84338.  Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:29 pm Reply with quote

grizzly wrote:
Dieing and being killed are different though...


Through semantics only, perhaps. Cause might be different but the effect remaisn the same. Stiff.

 
Dr. Know
91480.  Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:13 pm Reply with quote

PYRO73 wrote:
I believe that I have collected enough evidence to prove that dragons could have existed.

did it ever occur to you that no one has ever found a big fantasy dragon skeleton?
i mean, call me crazy, but the only dragons i think exsist are komodos.

 
mckeonj
91503.  Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:00 pm Reply with quote

My observations on dragons:
Chinese dragons are quite openly said to be what Europe calls 'chimerae', that is mythical beasts made by combining parts from two or more real animals. The European GRIFFIN or GRYPHON for example has the head of an eagle and the body of a lion. The Chinese dragon has five component parts, representing the five elements, and is a wise and benevolent creature, a messenger of God, who needs wings in order to fly. His European equivalent is the ANGEL, of human shape but with wings, again in order to fly, acting as God's messenger. I imagine that the Welsh dragon is of the same nature.
Regarding the breathing of fire, this may come from the ability of some real animals to spit or spray 'venom' - I believe that the komodo dragon has a pretty venemous mouth. I remember being attacked by fire ants in the New Forest, these beasts are about four times the size of common ants, with bright red and black bodies, and spray formic acid (kettle descaler) with a range of up to three feet, and it feels like being burned.

 
Celebaelin
91509.  Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:21 pm Reply with quote

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The oldest recorded use of the dragon to symbolise Wales is from the Historia Brittonum, written around 830, but it is popularly supposed to have been the battle standard of Arthur and other ancient Celtic leaders. It is particularly associated in Welsh poetry with Cadwaladr king of Gwynedd from c.655 to 682.

Many legends are associated with the Welsh dragon. The most famous is the prophecy of Myrddin (or Merlin) of a long fight between a red dragon and a white dragon. According to the prophecy, the white dragon would at first dominate but eventually the red dragon would win, this eventual victory and recapturing of Lloegr would be, according to Welsh legend, brought about by Y Mab Darogan. This is believed to represent the conflict in the 5th and 6th centuries between the British Celts (who later became the Welsh) and the invading Saxons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Wales

 
Dr. Know
91710.  Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:06 pm Reply with quote

small nugget of info- the dragon on the welsh flag is called dewie. i dont know if you know that already so i thought i'd say it anyway

 
djgordy
91711.  Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:08 pm Reply with quote

dr. know wrote:
small nugget of info- the dragon on the welsh flag is called dewie. i dont know if you know that already so i thought i'd say it anyway


What happened to Hewie and Lewie?

 
Dr. Know
92013.  Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:03 pm Reply with quote

its not pronounced like dooey. just how its spelled. with an "ehw" sound.

 
Caradoc
92343.  Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:12 pm Reply with quote

dr. know wrote:
small nugget of info- the dragon on the welsh flag is called dewie. i dont know if you know that already so i thought i'd say it anyway


Where do you get this from?

The Cymraig for David is Dewi, so not from that.

The Dragon on the flag is - Draig Goch = red dragon

Dewie has no meaning in Cymraig

 
samivel
92371.  Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:09 am Reply with quote

Caradoc wrote:
The Cymraig for David is Dewi



What's Dafydd, then?

 
cabs
92372.  Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:10 am Reply with quote

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What's Dafydd, then?


An uck.


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Caradoc
92373.  Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:13 am Reply with quote

samivel wrote:
Caradoc wrote:
The Cymraig for David is Dewi



What's Dafydd, then?


David as well, but it takes longer to type

 
samivel
92375.  Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:23 am Reply with quote

lol

Fair enough.

 
Dr. Know
92515.  Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:08 pm Reply with quote

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Caradoc
109656.  Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:30 pm Reply with quote

As far as I'm concerned the Dragon has always been- Draig Goch

 

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