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What do you think?
Global Warming is a hoax
8%
 8%  [ 5 ]
It's real, but is mostly natural
27%
 27%  [ 17 ]
It's real, and is mostly affected by man
56%
 56%  [ 35 ]
Ooh look, a brown dog outside my window...
8%
 8%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 62

Woodsman
1148856.  Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:14 pm Reply with quote

Thought I would chime in here with the latest.

2015 summer set to be hottest in US in the records. This despite that parts of the country were cooler. It is the West that is getting the brunt of it.

Also, arctic sea ice cover is just reaching the fourth lowest extent in the satellite record. Doesn't look like it will go below 2011 at #3, however. The Northern Sea Route and Northwest Passage are both currently open.

 
gruff5
1148913.  Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:18 am Reply with quote

First 8 months of 2015 have globally been the hottest on record. So, very likely this will turn out to be the hottest year.

 
cornixt
1149049.  Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:10 am Reply with quote

I think the only heat record not broken this summer in Seattle was the hottest temp ever. So many records were not just broken but surpassed by huge amounts. Average temperatures, most days over 80F, most days over 90F, continuous days of heat, days without rain. Hit the 80s again last week, but cooled down yesterday.

Still, as soon as it snows you'll get the sarcastic "global warming, hah!" comments.

 
Woodsman
1149499.  Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:30 am Reply with quote

It's weather, not climate, but still ...

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/09/17/warm-weather-delays-arrival-of-fall-foliage-in-maine/

Or maybe, just maybe ....

 
cornixt
1149508.  Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:18 am Reply with quote

I tried to explain how melting sea ice doesn't raise sea levels (with a caveat on salt changing the density, and that the causes of melting sea ice are likely to also melt land ice which would raise sea levels) - oh my god, people are so dumb and refuse to believe it. I despair for humanity.

 
PDR
1149510.  Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:23 am Reply with quote

See if they can grasp the concept that removing the sponges won't cause the level to rise either...

PDR

 
gruff5
1149630.  Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:14 am Reply with quote

and with an additional caveat that melting sea ice leads to further warming due to the higher absorption of sunlight by darker seas than reflective ice.

 
Woodsman
1152857.  Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:48 am Reply with quote

Arctic sea ice settled at 4th lowest minimum, following last winter's minimum maximum.

nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/


In other news, House Republicans, after their success denying climate change, will take on the issue of gravity.

 
cornixt
1153081.  Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:10 am Reply with quote

They will take 4th lowest as not the lowest ever, therefore disproving it. They want every year to be worse than the year before, or it proves nothing is happening at all.

 
Woodsman
1153095.  Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:45 am Reply with quote

Shove this in their collective face, then. To continue to feel comfortable, they can place bricks under the 'right' side of their computers.

Ice volume decreased from 17,000 km3 in 1979 to 6,000 km3 in 2015 (4,500 in 2012). oooh, an increase of 2,500 in just three years! But it increased 3,500 in 5 years in the 80s without stopping the downward trend.

http://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/BPIOMASIceVolumeAprSepCurrent.png

 
gruff5
1158963.  Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:54 am Reply with quote

There's an article on this year's El Nino & climate change on The Guardian - informative comments below, also, and not a denier in sight.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/17/el-nino-rain-california-coral-reefs

"....near-certainty that 2015 will be the world’s warmest year on record.

By some considerable margin, I rekon. This will begin to show up more clearly in RSS data in the coming months and even Roy Spencer's rather subbornly cool data set (UAH) will get a kick up the arse.

The good news for deniers is that they'll have a brand new super El Nino, cherry picked, start point to begin wibbling on about their fantasy pauses....The bad news for the planet is that this year (2015) represents a huge leap in the surface temp anomaly."

 
Dix
1158990.  Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:20 am Reply with quote

For a moment there I was wondering what the sheerness of tights was doing in the climate change debate.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/denier

 
'yorz
1158993.  Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:18 am Reply with quote

Heh. Glad I wasn't the only one.

 
gruff5
1249762.  Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:56 am Reply with quote

oh, global warming is a hoax after all:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/09/18/immediacy-threat-climate-change-exaggerated-faulty-models/

If you do a search in Google News on this, you'll find it's not just in the Telegraph.

I knew climate change was an uncertain science, but now I'm confused.

 
Leith
1249813.  Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:23 pm Reply with quote

I can't see enough past the Telegraph's pay wall, but I assume that's the new study from Richard Millar et al, as reported in Nature:
https://www.nature.com/news/limiting-global-warming-to-1-5-c-may-still-be-possible-1.22627

The study proposes some corrections to the climate models used to predict future warming. These corrections result in a slower rate of warming than previously forecast. That makes the goal of the Paris climate agreement (of limiting warming to 1.5°C) look achievable once more, when it had been in grave doubt.

It's difficult to judge from short periods, but climate models did seem to have been consistently overestimating temperature rises over the past few years. This new prediction is just one study, and not without its critics, but it's good news if true.

Predictably of course, some are presenting the results as "all climate science has been disproved"...

 

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