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624401.  Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:12 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
AFB, is the person being crucified in the picture that hangs on your wall a Mr B Cohen, by any chance?

of course it was... (was because that's a long time ago, in my first apartment as an undergrad)



624427.  Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:55 pm Reply with quote

Wendy has just reminded me of a friend of hers who brought the missionaries in, sat them down, gave them a cup of tea, and then expressed delight that he would now try and convert them..... to Satanism.
Cloud of dust.

624437.  Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:18 pm Reply with quote

my dad once asked them in, sat them down with a cup of coffee and dissected every single bible passage they had on offer to back up their theories replying with one of his own. after about an hour and a half one of them screamed "oh dear, my potatoes", and they ran and were never seen again. kept the house free of jehova's witnesses for the next ten years, so it did.



624456.  Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:34 pm Reply with quote

I gave them a Hare Krishna book which had previously been given to me by an HK, and urged the JWs to read it and pray. I will report the outcome if the JWs return.

624800.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:50 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
Is giving sweets to "strange" kids still "allowed" where you live, then? British hysteria about "paedophiles" is such that this is a thing that one is very strongly advised not to do, and furthermore kids are warned in school not to accept any such offer.

Good God, really? I know you live in Kent and people in the South are untrustworthy, but still. When I lived with my parents*, any kids coming round absolutely expected sweets, indeed giving them money would be strongly discouraged by their parents.

That said, I was once in a local pub on the 31st when three teenagers came in, probably about 16 or so, attempting to get money as trick-or-treaters. They were swiftly shown the door.

*I now live in a flat, trick-or-treaters can't get into the block so I'm not bothered by them.

624914.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:09 pm Reply with quote

I don't think I can deny that there's less sense of "community" in the south east than elsewhere in the UK - knowing your neighbours isn't especially encouraged, and taking any kind of interest in their affairs is perceived as - at best - nosey and rude. And as I can verify from personal experience, telling their kids not to play football in our driveway is not welcomed either.

But isn't the thing about not accepting sweets from strangers impressed upon school kids everywhere? It was when I was in school, and that was long, long ago in a country far, far away.

While I still wouldn't welcome trickers and treaters, I'd have less of a problem with them if they came with their parents - but where we live at least, they usually don't.

624922.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:29 pm Reply with quote

Yes, children are normally told not to take treats from strangers. But Hallowe'en is an exception.

Just as going door-to-door singing songs is normally discouraged outside December.

624935.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:52 pm Reply with quote

Hallowe'en does seem to be regarded as some kind of exception there, but surely that plays right into the hands of a very small proportion of the population. Still, I'm not aware that in Britain we've ever had the thing that some places in the US had a couple years back, where kids were advised to take any edible items they might be given to the hospital to be X-rayed before eating them. (There was one case in Texas where a guy laced the sweets he gave to trick or treaters with hydrogen cyanide; a boy died and cyanide guy went to the death chamber. But that's the only one which has been verified; contrast with the claims made in certain sections of the media that insertion of poisons or sharp metal objects into the sweets is rife.)

I actually don't mind carol singers. OK, so that's partly because I was allowed to do it in my childhood, and I wasn't allowed to trick or treat. But at least with carol singers, they do something in return for the consideration they expect - and some of them are really pretty good.

625560.  Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:27 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
There was one case in Texas where a guy laced the sweets he gave to trick or treaters with hydrogen cyanide; a boy died and cyanide guy went to the death chamber.
According to New Scientist it was his own son he did it to in order to collect on the insurance. No limit for some people...

625652.  Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:20 pm Reply with quote

Someone I work with made the suggestion that one go round to a Kingdom Hall, knock on the door and say that one would like to convert the occupants to ........*
If they say you can't do that here, inform them that they should refrain from banging on other people's doors.

I like this idea

*Insert belief of your choice here

626306.  Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:51 am Reply with quote

I used to go out guising in fancy dress when I was little, back in the days when you had to actually make an effort to get some sweets, either by telling jokes or a poem or something, rather than just chant 'trick or treat' and expecting something. We'd visit friends houses and neighbours that we knew, and places where you knew you would get something - usually they'd put a lantern in the window to let you know. We wouldn't just go to any random house.

My folks still get kids coming to the house on hallowe'en as my mam is a teacher, and knows lots of the kids and their brothers and sisters. Their elderly neighbours make a load of effort for the kids in the village, and always have lots visiting them.

626312.  Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:08 am Reply with quote

I do not mind the kids who make an effort (by reciting a wee poem joke etc)in the old Scottish(?)style of 'Guising', but the ones who seem to demand sweets/money in the guise (<see what I did there) in the name of that (mostly) USAian import 'trick or treat' get my goat.

When my boys were younger they could go around the square (we are in a sort of cul-de-sac thing) knocking on doors we had previously asked permission from (don't go to number 13 he is a grumpy so and so) and watching them from the window letting them think they are on a big adventure but watching them all the time , but I wouldn't have let them roam the length and breadth of the estate.
Boys are 16 (nearly 17) and 15 now,so there Guising days are over. Oh how I miss the past .


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