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27272.  Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:53 pm Reply with quote

How so? Aboriginal people have dark skin.

27290.  Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:43 pm Reply with quote

Yes, and I'm being picky here, I didn't know they were black.

Dark-skinned maybe, but not black.

I may be wrong, in which case I'm sorry.

27296.  Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:27 pm Reply with quote

'Random' again - that's the cause of all the trouble. Australians always described Aborigines as 'black' fellas until very recently; that was just the word they used, Natalie - whether we like it or not.

27298.  Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:28 pm Reply with quote

So it all stems from the "original" use of the word "black". Okee.

Sorry about the "random" Flash. I just randomly use it :p

27371.  Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:35 am Reply with quote

Natalie wrote:
Dark-skinned maybe, but not black.

There are Aboriginal people who are black. The central and northern Australian tribes have extremely dark skin.

For example, one of Australia's most famous Aboriginal actors - David Gulpilil

As one gets further south, the tribes tend to have lighter skin but still reasonably dark.

27392.  Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:55 am Reply with quote

But his skin isn't black, is it? It's very dark brown.

On the other hand, my skin isn't white either. It's kind of beigy pinkish.

27398.  Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:01 am Reply with quote

I'm not arguing from a pedantic point of view. No-one's skin is 'black' but as far as skin colour goes, David's skin is what we consider black.

27410.  Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:42 am Reply with quote

It would be a tad awkward and time-consuming to have describe people's skin individually as 'dark brown' or 'beigy pinkish'.

27479.  Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:41 pm Reply with quote

Really the Race Relations people should take this in hand. If you can have fine-tuned paint colour charts why not skin tones?

The native Australian's flesh could be 'brark' and Jenny's could be 'peige' or 'bink'.

Or possibly 'Liquorice Espresso' and 'Budleigh Salterton Sunrise'.

27494.  Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:10 am Reply with quote

JumpingJack wrote:

The native Australian's flesh could be 'brark' and Jenny's could be 'peige' or 'bink'.

If that were the case, we'd all be speaking South African, and then how would we tell who the pub managers were.

Mostly Harmless
27507.  Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:22 am Reply with quote


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27539.  Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:42 am Reply with quote

Better make sure we say pedant correctly, otherwise there could be an uproar.

64583.  Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:49 am Reply with quote

brackett wrote:
Is that how Stephen pronounced the word? What an absolute dickhead! I've lost all respect for the man.

If your respect is lost that easily, I doubt Mr Fry is particularly bothered that he has.

Oh the wondrous mutual exclusivity of sarcasm and the internet!

64633.  Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:04 am Reply with quote

Bothered that he has what?

The problem is, that sarcasm can be interpreted wrongly. What I mean is - Someone may write something and not mean it to be sarcastic, but someone else reads it sarcastically, and there's ya problem.

65096.  Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:22 pm Reply with quote

I wrote:
If your respect is lost that easily, I doubt Mr Fry is particularly bothered that he has.

Natalie wrote:
Bothered that he has what?

Lost your [Brackett's] respect.

Well, the real problem with sarcasm is that it is communicated entirely through paralinguisitic features such as tone of voice, facial expression and general body language. Needless to say these are not communicable through the interweb sans camera/mic..



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