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650.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:17 am Reply with quote

Getting ahead on those 'C' questions.

QI facts about shoemakers of all ages.

651.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:18 am Reply with quote

Thomas Traherne (1637-74) was the son of a cobbler.

653.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:22 am Reply with quote

Jakob Böhme (1575-1624), the German philosophical mystic, actually was a cobbler.

654.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:23 am Reply with quote

I thought this was going to be about cobblers' awls... but I will think about Cs and see if I can come up with anything interesting.

Frederick The Monk
659.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:32 am Reply with quote

Patrick Kavanagh (1904 - 1967) was the eldest son of a cobbler.

Frederick The Monk
660.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:34 am Reply with quote

According to Harvey Weinstein, Daniel Day-Lewis was taking time off to work as a cobbler in Florence, Italy when he, director Scorsese and DiCaprio lured him into coming back to New York "on false pretenses" so they could eventually persuade him to accept lead role in "Gangs of NY.

Frederick The Monk
661.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:39 am Reply with quote

Nineteenth century American orator Robert G. Ingersoll left school at fifteen and claimed his education only really began when he, sometime later, picked up a copy of Robert Burns poetry whilst waiting in a cobblers.

I wonder if modern cobblers keep poetry books handy to entertain customers while they wait?

I shall go and ask mine now.

662.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:46 am Reply with quote

(((Patrick Kavanagh))) - one of my favourite poets, but then there are so many of my favourite poets...

He wrote a couple of poems about his father - 'Memory of my Father' and 'A Christmas Childhood' - but neither of them mention the cobbling thing alas. I always assumed his father was a farmer, because Kavanagh himself started out that way and a lot of his early poems are on farming topics. (Can you tell I wrote a seminar paper about him when I was doing my MA?!)

However, although it's totally irrelevant to cobblers, you don't dangle a poet in front of a poetry-fiend without getting a poem out of her, so here's one of Kavanagh's that might be better on the 'God, Who He?' thread, but hey, who's checking?


I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided: who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.
I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue-cast steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."
That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was more important? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said: I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.

Patrick Kavanagh

664.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:57 am Reply with quote

Wow. Terrific stuff, Jenny, and (to my shame) I've never even heard of him...

Well done, Fred, for spotting the join.

Frederick The Monk
668.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:59 am Reply with quote

You know you're right about Kavanagh, Jenny - his father was a cobbler AND a farmer.

672.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:34 pm Reply with quote

Thank you for that book link Fred - I must go and put that on my wish list next time I'm in the Amazon site, though I bet it's not published over here. I thought there must be some farming in his family, because the early poems are so rural in theme.

674.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:18 pm Reply with quote

Hans Christian Andersen's father was a cobbler.

Now why on earth do you suppose I remembered that?

677.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:57 pm Reply with quote

I've no idea.

And don't forget Stalin's father too, of course....

682.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:34 pm Reply with quote

There will be trouble if the cobbler starts making pies.

683.  Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:35 pm Reply with quote

Horone de Balzac was described thus:

A fat little flabby person with the face of a baker, the clothes of a cobbler, the size of a barrelmaker, the manners of a stocking salesman, and the dress of an old innkeeper.



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