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BeccaD
437096.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:33 am Reply with quote

A body found in a bog in Denmark in the 50s. Through carbon dating experts have estimated him to be from around 290BC, and was about 30 when he died. The body is preserved well enough for fingerprints to be taken and the hair to be intact. He is currently on display in a museum in Denmark. The cause of death was a cut throat but he had other injuries and it is possible he was killed as part of a sacrifice or as punishment. Seamus Heaney wrote a poem about him, which can be found here: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-grauballe-man/



Another well-known example of a bog body is the Tollund Man, also discovered in Denmark in the 50s. I believe from him they were able to examine stomach contents and found large amounts of ergot fungus, a hallucinogenic substance, and also the nature of the seeds and plants found suggested they had been specially prepared for the occasion. This is part of evidence suggesting his death was part of some ritual. He is even older than the Grauballe Man and dated from around the 4th century BC.

 
samivel
437143.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:35 am Reply with quote

I like the fact that one of the major books about the Bog People was written by a bloke called Glob.

 
BeccaD
437221.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:14 am Reply with quote

Mr Glob. I hope his first name is Bob. Or was 'Glob' his only name? Just Glob. Let's look this up. Ah, OK. P V Glob according to Amazon. Still a good name by any standards.

 
Celebaelin
437240.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:15 am Reply with quote

Peevey Glob?

Are you sure you're not making this up?

 
BeccaD
437250.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:33 am Reply with quote

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/278-1484156-3055145?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=p+v+glob

 
bobwilson
437485.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:05 pm Reply with quote

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The body is preserved well enough for fingerprints to be taken and the hair to be intact.


Will he be featuring as a suspect in an unsolved crime in "Cold Case" at some time soon?

 
thegrandwazoo
437575.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:33 pm Reply with quote

I thought it was Keith Richards.

 
bobwilson
437578.  Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:41 pm Reply with quote

Don't be silly - he's got ginger hair.

 
QiScorpion
438540.  Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:52 pm Reply with quote

are we forgetting Otzi in our list of bog bodies?


there was one found in Britain but i can't remember his name...

 
Starfish13
438765.  Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:11 am Reply with quote

Pete Marsh

That was the name of the British bog man. I think they made it up...

I thought Otzi was found in a glacier rather than a bog?

 
Celebaelin
438848.  Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:33 am Reply with quote

Lindow Man

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The nature of his death was violent, perhaps ritualistic; after a last, charred meal, Lindow Man was strangled, hit on the head, and his throat was cut. His body was deposited into Lindow Moss, face down, some time during the 1st century AD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindow_Man

His excessively violent death was likely in the nature of a high status sacrifice (perhaps a druid or 'sacrificial king') to carry a message to a god or gods. There was a tradition in La Tène culture of depositing items of value in bodies of water or bogs as votive offerings eg The Battersea Shield and the Gundestrup Cauldron. This in itself implies a link between these places of standing water and the otherworld.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battersea_Shield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundestrup_cauldron

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With more than 100 similarly executed bog bodies having been discovered across Europe, there is the possibility of a widespread ritual practice.


A second, female, Lindow bog body was instrumental in solving a 20th century murder.
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On hearing the news of the discovery of the remains Peter Reyn-Bardt, who lived near Lindow Moss, believed it was the body of his wife. Mrs Reyn-Bardt had disappeared in 1960 and was the subject of an ongoing investigation by police. Peter Reyn-Bardt confessed to the murder of his wife and was tried and convicted.[4] The skull was later radiocarbon dated, revealing it to be nearly 2,000 years old. "Lindow Woman", as it became known, dated from around 210 AD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindow_Man#Lindow_Woman

 
Celebaelin
438926.  Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:43 pm Reply with quote

Quick links to the other bodies mentioned and a couple of others; Otzi was indeed found in ice but the others are bog bodies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tollund_Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi_the_Iceman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worsley_Man#Worsley_Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haraldsk%C3%A6r_Woman

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The oldest of these bodies dates to about 8000 BC, although the majority of specimens in Denmark are from the Pre-Roman Iron Age to Roman era (about 500 BC to 400 AD).[19] As of 2006 more than 700 ancient bodies have been discovered in these sites,[20] although other estimates have placed the number in the thousands. It is difficult for scientists to ascertain a precise number because many of the bodies have been lost or destroyed.

The other Wiki reference to about 100 bodies is likely a reference to those which show signs of ritual sacrifice of the sort seen in Lindow Man. There are many more articles to look at on this on Wiki alone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haraldsk%C3%A6r_Woman#See_also

One of which leads me to another G thread - coming soon to a forum near you Gel (Hair).

 

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