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austinallegro
377505.  Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:18 am Reply with quote

Don't mean to be a fly in the ointment, but the last time I logged on (a few months ago) I distinctly remember having around 1000 comments posted on my profile information but now I have around 600. I'm not saying that's important to me, like having 1000 comments makes you more important than a poster that dosen't or is a badg of honour (yeah right), but I'm wondering where on earth they've gone. Have things changed in any way since I last went on?

 
samivel
377517.  Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:41 am Reply with quote

Yes. The forums were taking up too much room on the server or something. No doubt someone clever will be along with a proper explanation soon.

Welcome back, btw :)

 
suze
377796.  Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:25 am Reply with quote

Still waiting for someone clever, so I'll confirm that samivel is absolutely right.

There was a rather serious server issue a couple weeks back, as a result of which some pruning took place - dr.bob explained in more detail at post 371882.

There may need to be more at some point; for the present the moderators are just keeping an eye on things.

 
austinallegro
377831.  Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:12 am Reply with quote

Right-o, that explains everything. Cheers :D

 
bobwilson
409677.  Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:24 pm Reply with quote

On the subject of overloading the space on the servers - is this still a problem?

If it is - is there any kind of statistical info available - ie how much space does a line of text take up, how much does a quote of another post take up, pictures etc?

 
bobwilson
409746.  Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:38 pm Reply with quote

I only ask because if it's a problem I'll go back over my own previous postings and cull them if it's necessary. (Most are out of date, have been answered, or don't add anything of value).

 
suze
409756.  Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:58 pm Reply with quote

I don't know the numbers that you request, but I was speaking to the IT Elf about this issue only yesterday so I can give you part of an answer.

The forum space issue isn't critical at the moment, but neither is it a thing about which we can be complacent. I've promised the Management some of my time during half term week to have a proper look - from which you can gather that i) it is a live issue but ii) it probably can wait until I have that week off in late October.

As for deleting individual postings, in general we'd rather people didn't do that - it can cause rather a lot of confusion. (You'll see this if you happen upon any threads which have featured the handful of people who have deleted all their posts. They look rather unbalanced, and it's often not clear who is saying what to whom and what refers to what.)

 
bobwilson
409766.  Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:40 pm Reply with quote

I'm a bit bemused that the issue of storage space is a live issue. Computer disks are extraordinarily cheap - surely the solution is just bung in a few more disks?

 
barbados
409794.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:26 am Reply with quote

Whilst computer discs are cheap, it's worth mentioning that there is a vast difference between the costs of a shared server (which I would take an educated guess at what is being used here) and a dedicated server (which would enable you to add disc space willy nilly)

 
dr.bob
409891.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:18 am Reply with quote

Indeed. If we were running the site on a dedicated server, we could basically do whatever we want with it. Sadly the reality is that it's on a shared server, so we are forced to abide by the limits imposed by the hosting company. As such, there is a fixed size which the forums database is allowed to grow to and, if it gets any bigger, the hosting company gets rather annoyed (last time they were annoyed enough to simply switch off the database with precisely zero warning, which was a bit tiresome).

One day I imagine something major will have to be done, but the longer we can postpone that day the easier life will be. As suze says, deleting individual posts is probably not the way to go. However, I'm sure there are quite a few threads out there that could be culled without too much trouble.

Normally I go through the forums on a regular basis and trim the threads that stand out for obvious reasons of size (like the Venting thread). I don't have time to go through every thread, though it might be useful if people proposed some threads which were ripe for culling.

These should be threads that don't contain any useful information that someone might want to call upon at some later date. The problem with the interesting nature of these forums is that such threads are quite hard to spot.

 
Arcane
409955.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:12 am Reply with quote

I instituted a thread called "Food, glorious food". Really I should have looked further because there is a thread on food in the QI Lists!

I am quite happy for you to delete that thread, as I don't feel it contained anything that someone one day will be desparately searching for!

 
dr.bob
410028.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:01 am Reply with quote

Consider it gone. Many thanks for that, reddy.

Any more for any more?

 
samivel
410032.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:09 am Reply with quote

Sing Song Qing Qong could probably go.

 
Arcane
410040.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:19 am Reply with quote

I also instituted a thread about whether Australia is an island or a continent. It was probably my first thread and I didn't know it had been addressed earlier in QI. So again, possibly a doubling up of information and not necessary.

dr.bob, could a notice be put up in General Banter asking if people would contribute their own threads for deletion? It would be more visible there and you'd get more responses!

And of course, you'd have to delete it eventually as that too would end up taking up room!

 
barbados
410047.  Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:27 am Reply with quote

I'd guess and say that anything that has less than say 20 posts in and appears later that page 50 on General Banter could probably be cut.

If it hasn't been posted to in 7 months and didn't create that much interest when it was new it probably won't be missed

 

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