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340138.  Tue May 20, 2008 8:05 am Reply with quote

Flash wrote:
too much iron in the blood or something

is a jolly good attempt at an explanation, if you ask me.

Yes, certainly; especially that "or something," which lends an air of irrefutability to the matter.

345591.  Tue May 27, 2008 4:25 am Reply with quote

In last night's Unbelievable Truth, David Mitchell said, rather scornfully, "I don't think they had cricket in Shakespeare's time."

Shakey died in 1616. According to Wikipedia:

Despite many prior suggested references, the first definite reference to the game is found in a 1597 court case concerning dispute over a school's ownership of a plot of land. A 59-year old coroner, John Derrick, testified that he and his school friends had played kreckett on the site fifty years earlier. The school was the Royal Grammar School, Guildford, and Mr Derrick's account proves beyond reasonable doubt that the game was being played in Surrey c.1550.

The first reference to it being played as an adult sport was in 1611, when two men in Sussex were prosecuted for playing cricket on Sunday instead of going to church.

345597.  Tue May 27, 2008 4:36 am Reply with quote

Good. Keep 'em coming.

345600.  Tue May 27, 2008 4:40 am Reply with quote

The context was that football is mentioned in Shake, but cricket isn't; so the question might be along the lines of "David, why isn't there any cricket in Shakespeare's plays?"

345622.  Tue May 27, 2008 4:59 am Reply with quote

Do we have an "answer" to that?

345627.  Tue May 27, 2008 5:04 am Reply with quote

From squire:

Lancashire doesn't appear in the Domesday book where lands in the county are considered as parts of Cheshire and Yorkshire. The county only came into existence in 1183, the same year that Joseph of Exeter first recorded a sport resembling cricket.

Fact originally posted by Fred. post 31414

345628.  Tue May 27, 2008 5:05 am Reply with quote

Ah - no. "Because it isn't" is I suppose the only answer. Perhaps he will need to be lured into it ...

Stephen: Which of our modern sports is mentioned in Sh?
David: Football.
Stephen: But not cricket?
David: No, cricket wasn't inven-
FX: Klaxon.

345770.  Tue May 27, 2008 8:04 am Reply with quote

Be careful to use the word cricket in the context of sport, because the word in the context of insect appears three times in Shakespeare's plays:

1) Act V. Scene V. The Merry Wives of Windsor. Craig, W.J., ed. 1914. The Oxford Shakespeare
...Hobgoblin, make the fairy oyes. Pist. Elves, list your names: silence, you airy toys! 20 Cricket, to Windsor chimneys shalt thou leap: Where fires thou find st unrak...

2) Act I. Scene IV. Romeo and Juliet. Craig, W.J., ed. 1914. The Oxford Shakespeare
...the smallest spider s web; 68 The collars, of the moonshine s watery beams; Her whip, of cricket s bone; the lash, of film; Her waggoner, a small grey-coated gnat,...

3) Act IV. Scene III. The Taming of the Shrew. Craig, W.J., ed. 1914. The Oxford Shakespeare
...116 Thou yard, three-quarters, half-yard, quarter, nail! Thou flea, thou nit, thou winter-cricket thou! Brav d in mine own house with a skein of thread! Away! thou...

345776.  Tue May 27, 2008 8:14 am Reply with quote


Shakespeare mentions football x times, but how often does he mention the cricket?

F: never

A: three times. He was referring to the animal, not the game, but the fact is, etc, etc

345800.  Tue May 27, 2008 8:40 am Reply with quote

Oh yes, that's lovely. Double bubble!

345809.  Tue May 27, 2008 8:48 am Reply with quote

Unless it's referred to by some other name, Shakespeare mentions football twice, according to the Bartleby search engine:

1) Act I. Scene IV. King Lear. Craig, W.J., ed. 1914. The Oxford Shakespeare
...him. Osw. I ll not be struck, my lord. 52 Kent. Nor tripped neither, you base football player. [Tripping up his heels. Lear. I thank thee, fellow; thou servest me,...

2) Act II. Scene I. The Comedy of Errors. Craig, W.J., ed. 1914. The Oxford Shakespeare
...fetch thy master home. Dro. E. Am I so round with you as you with me, 80 That like a football you do spurn me thus? You spurn me hence, and he will spurn me hither:...

345816.  Tue May 27, 2008 9:00 am Reply with quote

Excellent Jenny, I thought of doing that exercise but couldn't immediately find a way to do it.

Turns out that there are also two uses of the word "cricket" (Merry Wives of Windsor and Taming of the Shrew), but in both cases he meant Gryllidae rather than bats and balls.

345852.  Tue May 27, 2008 9:46 am Reply with quote

See post 345770 Suze :-)

345862.  Tue May 27, 2008 9:59 am Reply with quote

Damn you suze, read the whole thread !!!

1090564.  Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:36 am Reply with quote

I accidentally found this old thread, and had to add: just about any "fact" about American laws. Most of these were made up ages ago as jokes, and somehow ended up as "trivia". All the so-called researches of this show would have to do is look up the statutes for the various states and localities (they're almost all completely online) and search for some keywords that, unsurprisingly, never turn up.


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