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Gray	29115.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:13 pm Your place to discuss lexical ancestry.
Anna	29116.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:42 pm Here's an interesting one. Quote: Cardigan 1868, from James Thomas Brudenell (1797-1868), 7th Earl of Cardigan, English general distinguished in the Crimean War, who set the style, in one account supposedly wearing such a jacket while leading the Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava (1854) From etymonline.com I find it QI that cardigan should have such illustrious and active coinage. =D
samivel	29119.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:41 pm It can't have afforded much in the way of protection
Anna	29120.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:00 pm I wonder if his mum knitted it for him...
Flash	29125.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:41 pm Quote: while leading the Charge of the Light Brigade at Balaclava That's all very well, but what was he wearing to keep his head warm?
Anna	29130.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:07 pm Perhaps he had an entire knitwear ensemble. =D
Natalie	29131.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:10 pm He probably wasn't using his head much, so it didn't need to stay warm.
Ciggywink	29418.  Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:33 am From 'Brand New Information' strand: This whole "Thing" thing gets odder. Have just checked the German which I don't speak - help! anyone out there who does? - and there are 2 words, it seems for 'thing' in German - "Ding" and "Sache" which also means 'cause...matter...case...business'
JumpingJack	29716.  Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:29 pm Here's one I found this morning. Climax is Greek for 'ladder'.
thetwig	29719.  Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:41 pm "News" is actually a special use of the plural of "New", not as the myth goes that it comes from the initials of "North, South, East, West".
Jenny	29727.  Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:03 pm According to the online etymology dictionary, the use of 'climax' with the meaning of 'orgasm' was first recorded in 1918, apparently coined by birth-control pioneer Marie Stopes, as a more accessible word than orgasm.
JumpingJack	29800.  Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:20 pm So is a woman's orgasm a bit like climbing a ladder?
Jenny	29817.  Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:58 pm Let me check that. Ask me again tomorrow.
dharlequin	30074.  Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:50 pm Stopes uses "climax" alongside "orgasm" in her book Married Love, rather than as a replacement. She uses it in its ordinary descriptive sense as often as she uses it as a synonym, as I recall. The legacy of Stopes in this, as in other matters, was double-edged. She encouraged men and women to seek mutual orgasm, rather neglected in marriage manuals since the 17th century, when it was seen as essential for conception. On the other hand, she implied that there was something discreditable about the failure to achieve it. Mutual pleasuring is obviously a good thing, but loading a sense of failure on those women who are physiologically incapable of orgasm is not one of the 20th century's more emancipating changes in sexuality.
Mostly Harmless	30078.  Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:31 am .. Last edited by Mostly Harmless on Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:38 pm; edited 1 time in total

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