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Ian Dunn
301512.  Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:26 pm Reply with quote

I thought it would be quite interesting to start a thread on finals (but hopefully, this won't be the final message on this thread).

There is a final going on tonight: the Mastermind Grand Final. The final specialist subjects are:


  • The history of Venice
  • Steve McQueen
  • D-Day
  • It Ain't Half Hot Mum
  • London Bridge
  • The Godfather Trilogy


The final is on BBC Two, at 7:30pm.

UPDATE: The winner was teacher David Clark, who chose London Bridge. He scored 30 points.

 
Efros
301719.  Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:27 pm Reply with quote

It's falling down you know.

 
djgordy
301725.  Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:41 pm Reply with quote

The chap who came second is probably kicking himself for thinking that "Rule Britannia" is the National Anthem.

 
Oolon Colluphid
302308.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:47 pm Reply with quote

djgordy wrote:
The chap who came second is probably kicking himself for thinking that "Rule Britannia" is the National Anthem.

Wishful thinking, I reckon. It should be Rule Britannia. It just seems a little more patriotic to me.

 
suze
302507.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:34 pm Reply with quote

If only that guy had read post 58592 ...

That thread then goes onto discuss tunes that people would rather have as the national anthem, as indeed does one beginning at post 78061.

 
PDR
302527.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:42 pm Reply with quote

I go with Big Yin on this one - we should use the Archers Theme Tune. Failing that the next choice would be Freddie Mercury's "Barcelona", but with "Barcelona" replaced with "Rule Britannia".

Of course with the way the country's being derailed by eco-political correctness I guess a more appropriate one might be Kermit singing "It isn't easy being green"...

PDR


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djgordy
302531.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:43 pm Reply with quote

Unfortunately, the chap wasn't asked what he thought ought to be the national anthem; he was asked which national anthem had the same tune as that of Liechtenstein.

 
suze
302574.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:06 pm Reply with quote

He was indeed. I can't remember what was the other "easy"* question which he got wrong, but I'm sure there was one. If I'd been sat in the chair on his behalf for his General Knowledge round, I reckon he'd be in possession of the Mastermind trophy right now.

One thing struck me in that final actually - the General Knowledge questions were really quite easy (compared to University Challenge that's hardly surprising, but a lot of those questions would have been appropriate for Millionaire).

Is this just because I'm better at General Knowledge than I used to be - as we all are as we get older? Or are the questions genuinely pitched such that the casual viewer ought to know more of the answers than was once the case?


* Yea, I know they are only easy if you know the answer. But there was another one that he didn't get, and which was the sort of thing to which People Who Do Quizzes just would know the answer.

 
djgordy
302618.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:08 pm Reply with quote

As I have mentioned before, out on another thread, I play in a quiz league team. People often get questions wrong which they know the correct answer to perfectly well*. The question goes in the ears and an answer comes out the mouth but the brain has been bypassed. Everyone does it.





*Obviously, that doesn't include myself as I get all my answers right!

 
Efros
302644.  Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:43 pm Reply with quote

Suze I think it's a combination of both age and the quizzes getting easier. I know that apart from the really obscure specialist subjects I usually do pretty ok in the specialist round much more so than in my youth. The general knowledge round I think has become slightly easier over the years.

 
suze
302930.  Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:55 am Reply with quote

The specialist subjects are always going to be a bit of a lottery for the viewer - although I reckon one has more of a chance these days simply because they allow more populist subjects than formerly. In my youth, neither British Mastermind (which was shown sporadically on Canadian television) nor the Canadian equivalent appeared to permit subjects like TV shows or popular beat combos.

I'm sure djgordy is right as regards getting questions wrong despite knowing the answer perfectly well - and I'm sure the pressure of being on TV doesn't help there. E'en so, I'm definitely with Efros here - I really do think the General Knowledge questions are easier than they used to be. (Not necessarily a bad thing either, although I'd get upset if it started to happen on University Challenge.)

 
Ian Dunn
302973.  Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:46 am Reply with quote

For me, the easy question that was not correctly answered by the contestants was, "What did Thomas Edison say was 1% inspiration and 99% persperation?"

 
violetriga
302980.  Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:53 am Reply with quote

Ian Dunn wrote:
For me, the easy question that was not correctly answered by the contestants was, "What did Thomas Edison say was 1% inspiration and 99% persperation?"

Google is unsure, coming up with Genius, Creativity, and Success on the first page when searching for 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

 
Ian Dunn
302981.  Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:55 am Reply with quote

violetriga wrote:
Ian Dunn wrote:
For me, the easy question that was not correctly answered by the contestants was, "What did Thomas Edison say was 1% inspiration and 99% persperation?"

Google is unsure, coming up with Genius, Creativity, and Success on the first page when searching for 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.


You don't think that this whole thing smells of General Ignorance, do you?

 
Efros
303005.  Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:23 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
(Not necessarily a bad thing either, although I'd get upset if it started to happen on University Challenge.)


I dunno I think it has happened there too, although with the exception of the maths and science, which was almost non existent in the past.

 

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